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Club Rating
My current club rating is 5877,,, I expect to finish the season +5900 which would be a 600 point improvement from the end of last season

By the look of the standard of Serie B in Italy, with 3 quite decent cup runs (which I didn't do this season) I could probably get promoted to Serie A no problemo in the first season and also reach the +6500 with another seasonal improvement of +600.

Do you fellas think that's possible? Or shall I tactically stall my promotion to SerieA for one season by narrowly missing the top 3??

Where have your points come from? Results, better players, better staff, increased club value?

Number one will continue to increase as long as you're winning most of your games, but as you increase your ranking you get fewer points for winning and lose more for losing.

Number two will have got a big boost when you went over 5501, can you repeat that this season? As will have number three but you'll have effectively maxed that out now. Still got some headroom in number four but how can you increase it further, got some tasty youths to sell?

Is 6501 in Div 2 possible? Yes, everyone's favourite serial relegator has done it. Is it easy in your position? I don't think so.

I made it, and I think many others have too, by getting to Div 1 and slugging it out. Unless you're seriously underpowered for Serie A that's what I'd consider in the not too distant future. Nothing wrong with missing promotion once or twice but I don't think it will get you to the next level.

Yes, these are the dilemmas I have and just wondering what you more experienced managers think

I certainly won't be a serial relegator and cheat the game mechanics to get a few extra seats in my stadium and to get the +6500 mark

To get to 6501 you have to be ruthless with your squad and you need multiple (high) 70s rated players to replace the sub 70s ones. I think achieving that turnover in one season is ambitious to say the least.

I can't tell you what to do but staying down will certainly give you some breathing space to build the squad. However, having taken a quick look at your team and skimmed Serie A, you could compete in the top half, even top third.

My CR hasn't improved one bit since I promoted to the top league, I'm a mid table club at best and it will take years, not seasons, before I can challenge for anything really. I lose more games than I win, I'm lucky to progress past round 4 of cup competition, but it's still good fun. I'm waiting patiently for my youths to start promoting so I can hopefully make some decent cash and improve my CR that way, it's a very long road.

I've managed to gain about 500 CR points in 7 seasons in Brazil's Serie A even with 6 top-ten finishes. Gaining CR points in the top league is a long, long slog and you really need to be incredibly well prepared, know what you're doing, AND get a bit lucky if you're aiming for a x501 milestone after getting promoted to the top division.

At the start of Season 51 I was in more or less the same position as you (CR, club value), except in Div 1. I achieved 6501 before the end of the season and finished fifth. I snatched at it somewhat and due to a few high rating players retiring and some big ticket purchases I dropped back to sub 5900 in S52 and it took me until S54 to get back and stay there. However, I had time to improve my staff which is the most important thing.

IMO the division you're in is pretty irrelevant compared to the other big levers you could be pulling to get your CR up.

If able to expand the stadium whilst keeping the club value quite stable, does that improve club rating? And if so do you know by how many points?

I'll tell you in 25 days time when my expansion finishes

It's not a huge bump, if I recall correctly from the last expansion I completed a season or two ago.

The very first day I began this game I expanded my stadium from 17800 to 21800 but this was before I knew anything about club rating etc etc etc so wasn't paying attention to it

Another thing I did was terminate the contracts of the elderly bags of rubbish and was down to the minimum amount of players

The only reason I did these two things is because I had a fair bit of money to spend

Looking back,,, thank god (or my wits and obversational skills) that I realised I had a so-called "unicorn" player to sell otherwise id be in a quagmire by now and probably will have quit

As it stands I have 3 million profit from the very first day I began and improved a good fair amount in all areas, iam very happy to say

Any help and tips to improve club rating and knowledge and experiences you guys have posted are very much appreciated and I'm sure there is still lots to learn for many of us

As I see the +6500 club rating and the staff that come with that is kinda the holy grail on this game for managers to compete at the highest level regularly and that is obviously mine and other managers goal

Like I've said before I would never bend over and purposefully relegate myself to achieve any status, not in real life nor in an imaginary game

I'm surprised these cheats don't get sacked by their clubs because that's what would happen in real life after a relegation or two

This is probably the best manager sim online but it's for the reason of these game mechanic cheats I probably will never subscribe, but if the owner and devoloper did something to rectify that, aswell as a few other improvements, this game could be a very very lucrative thing for him and would be untouchable in the manager SIM world, with a bit of TLC and correct advertising

Anyhow, anymore help and tips to improve club rating the good old fashioned way will be very much appreciated further

It's not huge, much less than you'd get from having the cash in the bank...but if you're over 100M or going to have a huge tax bill it's worth it.

Check out Piper's thread in the helpful information forum, including some excellent posts by yours truly

My current club rating is 6303

Average player rating 62 (seems to be a trend that the APV and club rating rise together whilst making £$ profit)

Currently with 47 million profit for this season after selling a few players and also began building an extra 4000 seats

Is 6501 possible this season before I enter the top division??

If I get two or three cheap elderly 80-90s rated players to get the APV to 65+,, try to keep as much money in the bank for as long as possible until the tax man and the bill arrives alongside having a good strong season domestically,,,, will it be possible??

You need 200 more points. You can't get any more through league position or profit because you've already maxed out both categories. The only way to achieve it this season would be to increase your average player rating by 5 points and keep your club in 1st position and club value over 100M. You also need to make sure that you win as many games as possible and get some decent cup runs. It won't be easy, that's for sure.

You also need to achieve this by Day 56 and put in your staff applications on Day 48 for 7 days even if you aren't quite at 6501 yet. You'll need to hope you get there in the last week.

Once you enter Serie A you will lose some of your league position points for sure, and it's 20 points per position, so it'll be incredibly hard to overcome that.

Seems pretty tight to me, but what do I know. Don't forget that you can increase your APR by getting rid of dead wood as well as buying new. Jekyll and El-Mandooh shouldn't be anywhere near a 6501 squad IMO. Amorisini and Oyama too really. I'd try and get rid of them, sell dirt cheap or at last resort pay them off.

The counterweight to that is you don't want to cut so lean that when your golden oldies retire you get sacked for not having enough players.

Thanks for the input fellas

Yes it'll be very tight but I shall attempt it with slight caution,,, if I fail,,, the worst case scenario is I'll have to spend majority of my profit this season on more seats in the stadium

I remember posting in the helpful information thread that I'd finally got past 6500 and someone replied that 7500 was the hard one. They weren't kidding! Just over 150 to go but it's very slow going

+6500 is a big milestone from what I see from recent and much older threads I have read,,, can get a good 90 fixed attribute player to mid-late 80s rating,,,, with half a team of them you'll be flying further

I think that was me and Lemmy I'm still hot on his tail