| Quote: Originally posted by Vimesy Real good thread. Thank you for the effort Kevin.
I have a couple of questions, If I may
First, you mentioned doom and gloom on the forums in your post? I'm not sure I know what your talking about there.....
another thing that has me confused is the board rating. You say it doesn't matter? does that then mean that I can effectively ignore the expectations set by the board? for example, 11 staff? I can employ more without worry?
Lastly, you mentioned you had played the game for decades. I played about a decade ago. I'm sure there were a few thousand players at that time. Is the game still being actively advertised?
Lots of good questions and I'll answer what I can and Kevin or others can add anything they sees fit.
At various times there's been some 'doom and gloom' on the forums about the game and the number of active managers. There have been periods when the forums have been more active and less active and I think we're in a bit of a lull at the moment, but there are certainly people around.
The board objectives have no material influence on anything, nor does the board rating. You did, however, pick out one of the (maybe the only?) way the board actually matters and that's the number of staff they let you employ. You'll be able to employ more total staff as your club rating climbs as they will up the limit, but you can't hire more than their set limit.
This game has gone through a few iterations and past iterations did have more managers than there are currently. There's no active advertising of the game and that might be related to the lower numbers of managers at the moment. Ron, the person who runs/manages the game, doesn't have time due to personal and real life commitments to update the game and, as a result, the game is continuing forward as is.
You're more than welcome to advertise the game to your friends as there's still lots of enjoyment to be had  | |
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| Thank you.
I?m allowed 11 staff but I?ve currently got 13 | |
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| Where are most of the players based? UK? I?m Scottish but have been living in Japan for many years. Most of my friends are Japanese. This game is only in English tho.... how would the community take to some poor English speakers I wonder.....? Off topic tho, I?m sorry | |
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| Quote: Originally posted by Vimesy Thank you.
I?m allowed 11 staff but I?ve currently got 13
Don't count the ones at the top of your employed staff list, only the ones you can link to. The others are your 'permanent' staff that you can't do anything with. | |
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| Quote: Originally posted by pleasantsurprise Don't count the ones at the top of your employed staff list, only the ones you can link to. The others are your 'permanent' staff that you can't do anything with.
ah hah!
Thanks for that | |
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| Quote: Originally posted by Vimesy Where are most of the players based? UK? I?m Scottish but have been living in Japan for many years. Most of my friends are Japanese. This game is only in English tho.... how would the community take to some poor English speakers I wonder.....? Off topic tho, I?m sorry
There are people from all over the world who play - I'm in the US, many are in the UK, others across Europe, ozzymac is probably in Australia (although I haven't verified that), etc.
The community would welcome them, I would hope. Feel free to pull in anyone you think would enjoy the game. | |
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| Quote: Originally posted by KevinHann Because you want to try and promote youths when they have a few days left on their contract, it's important to try and remember (or write down) when their birthdays are. Be careful when you renew the contract on 16 year olds - if it's not on the last day of their current deal and they turn 17 before that day, next season they will turn 18 with a few days left on the contract and promotion will be attempted at a higher risk to fail.
Please could someone clarify - is it better to promote a 17 year old with 2 days left on their contract or renew their contract and let them auto-promote when they turn 18yrs old with 16 days left on their contract? | |
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| I'm not convinced that there's a higher risk of failure if you allow youths to turn 18. I always let my youths promote at age 18 and I've never had one reject a senior contract.
But if a youth is turning 18 the day after his youth contract was due to expire. I'd just promote him at age 17 and 50something days, no big deal. That is of course only my personal opinion. Others might disagree.
Nobody knows for certain how promotion chances work apart from Ron, so we're all just speculating really. Find out what works best for you. | |
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| Quote: Originally posted by Firesilver I'm not convinced that there's a higher risk of failure if you allow youths to turn 18. I always let my youths promote at age 18 and I've never had one reject a senior contract.
But if a youth is turning 18 the day his youth contract was due to expire. I'd just promote him at age 17 and 50something days, no big deal. That is of course only my personal opinion. Others might disagree.
Nobody knows for certain how promotion chances work apart from Ron, so we're all just speculating really. Find out what works best for you.
Thanks Firesilver, I would interest to hear if anyone has had a player in there a academy for a few seasons and allowed them to turn 18, but they did not promote. | |
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| Quote: Originally posted by muzzyizzet Thanks Firesilver, I would interest to hear if anyone has had a player in there a academy for a few seasons and allowed them to turn 18, but they did not promote.
The last Youth player that failed to promote for either of my teams was back in season 62 so 10 seasons ago.
I've not had a failed promotion since and I've promoted up to 3 a season. I had one season where 5 miraculously promoted but suspect that is unusual. | |
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| Quote: Originally posted by muzzyizzet Thanks Firesilver, I would interest to hear if anyone has had a player in there a academy for a few seasons and allowed them to turn 18, but they did not promote.
I have, hed been with me for ages and then just left, not even a goodbye note. | |
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| Am I right in thinking that once you hit club valuation of 100m, increasing that number makes no difference to your club rating? so 110m gives the same value as 120m?
Thanks, | |
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| Quote: Originally posted by Mr_Cantona Am I right in thinking that once you hit club valuation of 100m, increasing that number makes no difference to your club rating? so 110m gives the same value as 120m?
Thanks,
That is correct. | |
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| Quote: Originally posted by maddog17 The last Youth player that failed to promote for either of my teams was back in season 62 so 10 seasons ago.
I've not had a failed promotion since and I've promoted up to 3 a season. I had one season where 5 miraculously promoted but suspect that is unusual.
Does that include players you have just allowed to turn 18 years old? | |
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| Quote: Originally posted by muzzyizzet Please could someone clarify - is it better to promote a 17 year old with 2 days left on their contract or renew their contract and let them auto-promote when they turn 18yrs old with 16 days left on their contract?
I would first focus on:
- How long the youth has been in your academy.
- His rating, could he still improve? What do your youth coaches say?
- How many youths you have promoted this season, or very recently.
- If you try to promote next season when he turns 18, how many other youths might you have tried promoting during next season before that day.
Help Files suggest: "Having played in an academy for a long time and infrequent promotion attempts at the club can greatly enhance a given youth's promotion chances." | |
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| Quote: Originally posted by roland68 I would first focus on:
- How long the youth has been in your academy.
- His rating, could he still improve? What do your youth coaches say?
- How many youths you have promoted this season, or very recently.
- If you try to promote next season when he turns 18, how many other youths might you have tried promoting during next season before that day.
Help Files suggest: "Having played in an academy for a long time and infrequent promotion attempts at the club can greatly enhance a given youth's promotion chances."
He is fully trained at 100. I just want to maximise promotion chance. I can promote someone now so there are no other promotions next season. | |
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| Quote: Originally posted by muzzyizzet He is fully trained at 100. I just want to maximise promotion chance. I can promote someone now so there are no other promotions next season.
Nobody really knows exactly how the promotion algorithm works but since the youth updates around season 38, I've waited for a few to turn 18 before promoting. Even with 40+, 30+ days remaining in extreme cases, all except one youth promoted, and that rejection was because my squad was at max size. :rolleyes
So consider how long he's been in your academy and recent promotions. If he's been in your academy for at least 3 seasons and you've not promoted anyone else recently then there's a good chance he'll promote now. Leaving it until next season will probably increase the chances even more. Also follow your idea of not promoting any others for as long as possible before you try to promote this potential star player.
Regarding your quoted post from many years ago, I remember once upon a time, a GM mentioned that there seemed to be a bug in the promotion algorithm that caused it to look at only how many days of the current contract a player had been in the academy, instead of how long overall. So back then, it seemed the preferred choice was to promote near the end of a contract. I get the feeling this bug may have been fixed and that now that strategy no longer gains an advantage like it did in the past. | |
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| Thank you everyone for your input. | |
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| Pls how does this promotion work? Is it by changing a player's status from youth to senior??? | |
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| Quote: Originally posted by Jepco Pls how does this promotion work? Is it by changing a player's status from youth to senior???
You have two squads.
A Full squad (and the players are designated Senior, Reserve or Youth - there seems to be no difference to anything in changing this - for me it's is just a way o organising things).
And a Youth Squad, with players aged from 11 to 17 years (they automatically are offered promotion when they turn 18 ).
On the Squad page, you will see a "Youth Academy" tab. My guess is, if you're asking this question, then it is empty.
You need to find player to put in your youth academy.
You do this by sending scouts (Club>Scouth network) to find youth prospects.
It's a long burn....but ultimately worthwhile | |
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