| Quote: Originally posted by hutber_2nd How often do we get 100/100/100 youths? Or rather, are they actually better than say a 95/95/95 I imagine its nominal difference? I suspect you're right. All 100s youths tend to have at least one Achilles' heel of a FA as low as 90 when they promote, but I would expect that from time to time there would be a few exceptions to that pattern. | |
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| Quote: Originally posted by ironpsychoMeant to decline a youth and instead promoted him to the academy!
Well that?s a waste of 56 days!
Maybe we can have bigger buttons?
My sympathy, I've done that too.
Since then I don't try removing youths when on my mobile, I only on do it on my laptop and am still more careful about it.
Actually, as far as I can see, there's no good reason to remove useless youths form the list anyway, though I still sometimes do.. | |
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| Quote: Originally posted by hutber_2nd How often do we get 100/100/100 youths? Or rather, are they actually better than say a 95/95/95 I imagine its nominal difference?
I'd say it's all down to luck...
Since the youth update, my first 100-rated youth promoted in season 44. Including him, I've had five 100-rated youths in total.
Pederssen and Saglam are still in my team, they are very good. Two of the others were okay, but not the best, the other was disappointing and I sold him quickly.
My best two youths until now were both rated 92 when promoted. | |
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| So in theory, you may as well promote a 92/92/92 rather than wait another year for 100 ? | |
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| I'd still wait for 100 myself if the youth has potential to reach it. It's far more likely that he will turn out with FA 90s. A youth rating of 92 risks a very real chance of him coming out with a stat or two in the 80s, more so than a 100-rated youth I'd say.
I wish I had a better way of judging which youths will quickly develop and which take forever to move a single point. Most of my perfectly balanced youths have barely moved at all for the last 5 weeks, while a youth I took a bit of a risk on and signed up aged 13 and slightly unbalanced rated 43 has improved to 90 today after less than a season in the academy. He can only reach a maximum of 96 but I'll happily take that!
He went 43 -> 51 -> 56 -> 62 -> 68 -> 73 -> 85 -> 90 | |
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| Well yep... I learnt, my guy was 90... comes out 81!! ahhh the painnnnnnNNN | |
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| Quote: Originally posted by hutber Well yep... I learnt, my guy was 90... comes out 81!! ahhh the painnnnnnNNN
He will be perfect to play as a goalkeper if you decide to relegate yourself for another 10 seasons | |
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| Speaking of Goalkeepers* I recently got a perfectly balanced 14yr old rated 70 joining the youth set up, a good addage to my striker "Icarus" who is now 15yr old and rated 88 | |
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| Quote: Originally posted by hutberSo in theory, you may as well promote a 92/92/92 rather than wait another year for 100 ?
I didn't say that Neither has anyone else that I can see. | |
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| Quote: Originally posted by hutberSo in theory, you may as well promote a 92/92/92 rather than wait another year for 100 ?
I think you put two and two together and came up with 5 here somehow | |
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| I think... therefore I always get it wrong
Ok, to sum up then, you should promote them if they are 92/92/92 bascially? | |
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| Quote: Originally posted by hutberI think... therefore I always get it wrong
Ok, to sum up then, you should promote them if they are 92/92/92 bascially?
I presume you should keep them in the youth squad for as long as possible,, atleast until your youth coach says " he won't improve anymore" but I see previous managers saying that they can still improve even if the youth coach doesn't think so?
I've found that when promoting there's also luck involved,, and also possibly certain attributes of the coaches can help with the successful promotion of the youngsters
For example: my record sale "Varmer Fornisson" had reached 85 and the youth coach report said "he's taken all he can from our training, he won't improve anymore" so I decided to promote him,, look at my all time record for a player sold and you'll see how he turned out after promotion | |
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| Quote: Originally posted by KaneW I presume you should keep them in the youth squad for as long as possible,, atleast until your youth coach says " he won't improve anymore" but I see previous managers saying that they can still improve even if the youth coach doesn't think so?
I've found that when promoting there's also luck involved,, and also possibly certain attributes of the coaches can help with the successful promotion of the youngsters
For example: my record sale "Varmer Fornisson" had reached 85 and the youth coach report said "he's taken all he can from our training, he won't improve anymore" so I decided to promote him,, look at my all time record for a player sold and you'll see how he turned out after promotion
Anyhow, that's enough input from me regarding youth, I've only been here less than 4 seasons,,, you've been here 18+ seasons,, I thought you would have a better grasp of certain mechanics by now,, your current oldest player is 24 so you've promoted many many youth in the past whilst relegating yourself | |
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| Quote: Originally posted by KaneW For example: my record sale "Varmer Fornisson" had reached 85 and the youth coach report said "he's taken all he can from our training, he won't improve anymore" so I decided to promote him,, look at my all time record for a player sold and you'll see how he turned out after promotion
He was rated 85 in your academy | |
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Yes he certainly was Roland, 85 rated at the time of promotion( I promoted him on the day the coach report said he won't improve anymore).. I'm not certain if it was sheer luck alone as I've only promoted a few players but I think it shows good luck is possible aswell as bad luck with regards to many details in the IAG world | |
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| That's both astonishing and confusing! Many a 100/100/100 youth would have a lowest FA of less than 92. | |
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| My first 80 rated youth player in the academy, there's hope for me yet. | |
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| Quote: Originally posted by almahazaJust turned 17.
He was rated 63 as a 13 year old, pretty well balanced. He?s now at 68 so it?s been slow progress but that 4 point jump gives me hope that we could see him reach his potential (could be high 80s/low 90s).
Fingers crossed?.i could do with a few more forwards
Well a couple of weeks on and he?s up to 78. 38 days until he turns 18?.i wonder how far we?ll get? | |
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| Quote: Originally posted by KaneW Yes he certainly was Roland, 85 rated at the time of promotion( I promoted him on the day the coach report said he won't improve anymore).. I'm not certain if it was sheer luck alone as I've only promoted a few players but I think it shows good luck is possible aswell as bad luck with regards to many details in the IAG world
It's not unheard of for a sub-90 youth to promote with all 90s attributes but when he trains up, even at a 7501 club, to not be able to achieve a top rating | |
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| Quote: Originally posted by hutberI think... therefore I always get it wrong
Ok, to sum up then, you should promote them if they are 92/92/92 bascially?
In my opinion, unless you are truly desperate for a new player, or you've been told the youth won't improve any further (not that that's always true), you should keep them.
A 92-rated youth might make a 90+ rated player but it's likely that a 100-rated youth will come out better. Likely, but not certain, and nobody here really knows the algorithm to determine player attributes, nor the one that links attributes to potential rating.
Or if they do, they're not saying | |
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